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Posted 3 Weeks, 1 Day ago
Kclhmtguh
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I was recently looking through some of my less read books and noticed 'the magician's workbook'. In it, the author claims that the word Babalon (his spelling) is a divine name supposedly of Hebrew origin. This is quite strange to me on a few levels and was hoping someone could explain it to me. 1. Babalon is a place, not a divine name. 2. Babalon is a end product word that came from the Hebrew BuhVeL (Beis, Veis, Lamed) with Greek, Latin and probably another language or two between the original and the English. 3. The author spells the word as Beis, Aleph, Beis, Aleph, Lamed, Ayin Nun Sofis. I can't find any Hebrew word that matches this at all.
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Posted 3 Weeks, 1 Day ago
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As far as what you have...Bet-Vaw-Lamed the word is pronounced bool or bul and means: AV-food 1, stock 1; 2

1) produce, outgrowth

Nor could I, it appears the author knows little of the Hebrew Language.

In all actuality, the name Babylon is a greek corruption of the Hebrew word babel (spelt Bet-Bet-Lamed); and means 'confussion by mixing'. It may in fact come from the primitive root balal (spelt Bet-Lamed-Lamed) which means to 'mix, mingle, confuse'.

Hope this helps.
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Posted 3 Weeks, 1 Day ago
Iris
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if you have a hebrew version of the bible, the torah, look up genesis 11: 9.

Where you will find a refereance to the tower of babel, which my oxford dictonary of english etymology claims is derived from the hebrew
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Posted 3 Weeks, 1 Day ago
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Veis, not Vav. The Veis has a V sound much as the Vav does, but is the soft version of the Beis (i.e. no Dagesh).

I know that quite well from his attempt to translated Raziel Hamalach and even messing up the title.

BuhVel (to use the transliteration) is a location as well as a word (common in Hebrew as locations were named descriptively) . The meaning of the word came from the location, but yes, it's a Hellinization of a Hebrew word.

Actually, someone emailed me off list and pointed out that Crowley was probably the source as he did a lot of strange stuff to the word Babylon and the symbolism created around it. The author was either using Crowly's work directly (as Crowly's Hebrew was very poor) or was adding to it himself in the same vein. I really wish that those who are going to use my language for their own works would at least learn it first.
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Posted 3 Weeks ago
klaymen
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Already ahead of you. You can't tell it from my name or email, but I'm an orthodox Jew. And no disrespect to you but your oxford dictionary of English is wrong in that second b. It's a v sound, but its to be expected.... The question came up because of the claim that Babalon was a divine name and I know for certain that it is NOT a divine name in any Jewish tradition. A quick search through Shorshey HaShemos showed nothing even close.
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Posted 3 Weeks ago
scott
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babylon is god
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Posted 3 Weeks ago
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babylon is god so go babble.
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Posted 3 Weeks ago
klaymen
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i expressed my self poorly, i understand it to be a place name, at least through later xtian tradition and a word meaning to confuse if in not
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