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wbeaty
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Posted 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago #1
Hi, I am from Perth in West Australia. I am practical. I always thought that the jewish saying that a man must be able to support himself and his family before he can even think of trying to learn the Kabbalah. The jews were practical - the importance of being able to stand on your own two feet before you attempt anything is so right. You who try to learn - is it by shying away from the mainstream or do you have the courage to be main stream and STILL do your studies ??

ps I really do have a lot more to say. Peter Trenfield
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Posted 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago #2
Why don't you say it then?D.D.C.F.
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Posted 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago #3
Well, that's pretty much what a whole lot of us have to struggle with. Where do you find the balance between surviving in one world, and learning in another? Who hasn't wanted to devote their entire lives to their studies? But you can't keep your mind straight if your suffering from starvation hallucinations. Probably the only thing you can do in the modern world is stop seperating study from 'real life' stategies. It is possible to learn from even the most mundane of routines..it's a matter of your perspective and your ability to turn the necessities of your life into part of you studies...

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RogerReinsmith
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Posted 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago #4
Yep.

Once read a comment on a Buddhist parable (from 'Book of the Great Decease'?) where the illuminated sausage peddlers in the city square remained within a state of Buddha-consciousness (as it were) while slicing up their wares - each precise motion of the mind, arm, hand and knife itself a complete act of awareness (and Will, natch...).

It's also said that 'the Buddha is an excrement spatula' - which I take to be an underscoring of the absolute mundaness of the principles which inform one's contemplative life.

In the end, humanity's pursuit of illumination resembles some particularly obnoxious comedic skit; like Andy Kaufman's ghost performing as Padsambhava, hell-bent and bad company - driven slowly mad, and finally himself extinguished, by a taste of Crazy Wisdom...

Andy never indicated which part of his weird acts were the funny bits - that was the funny bit. I take wisdom (or rather, Wisdom) as being of the same substance. Every act is profoundly germaine because... ...well, it just is. That's the part you can't point to - the point, indeed.

I gather that upon the epiphanous realization of this such-ness one usually composes a haiku, heads into the wilderness to feast on locusts and honey, take up auto-flagellation or some such; and, too, one's eyes begin to gleam like a well-stoked shaman's, with, like...infinite zeal, or something. I've got a job, man. I have to be seen by people, relate to them, make it through the various check-out lines, traffic-lights, and phone calls which punctuate my daily trip. These necessary social hurdles hinder my willingness to make that absolute break with ordinary reality which enlightenment seems to mandate...

That was what I was trying to say in my original reply, before the babbling took hold.

<note to self: Next time, post first, smoke pipe later...>

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